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22 July 2008

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Why is there no American Flag on the Obama plane? Isnt he running for president of the United States?

Was there a part of the Constitution that says candidates for President must have flags on their aircraft? Or that stylized logos which incorporate flag iconography don't count? We don't recall reading that in Article II.

Moreover, let the record show that as Strict Constructionalists, we are opposed to activist attempts to reinterpret the Constitution in such a way as to make the livery painted on the side of an airplane a litmus test for Barack Obamas fitness to serve as Commander-in-Chief.

There is an American flag on Obama's plane. It is just to the left of the Aircraft ID Number (Tail Number) that is on the side of the fuselage. You can just see the numbers peaking out from behind the wingtip in this picture. The flag is left of the numbers, but obscured by the wingtip in this picture. This airplane originally had an American flag on the tail, however, this was an American Airlines aircraft and that flag is a trademark of American Airlines and could not be left there.

Why is he out of the country when he isn't President?! Votes? Or just money hunting. Looks bad to me.

You're right! I wondered that too. Why DID John McCain visit Columbia in July? The people of Columbia are not Americans. They can't vote! Looks bad to me too.

Can you please provide a clearer picture of the American flag on Obama's revamped campaign aircraft? I've received an email regarding the absence of the flag, and would like to be able to forward info with picture (possibly zoomed into the area of flag logo posted next to the aircraft ID/tail number and obscured by wingtip).Thank you.

OOPs!!Can you please provide a clearer picture of the American flag on Obama's revamped campaign aircraft? I've received an email regarding the absence of the flag, and would like to be able to forward info with picture (possibly zoomed into the area of flag logo posted next to the aircraft ID/tail number and obscured by wingtip).Thank you.
P.S. Sorry this was posted as a Telstar comment. I was attempting to ask Telstar and somehow this was listed as posted by them (not me) instead. I was asking Telstar to possibly provide this picture for me.

Hi Redhead. Send them this page
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/airplane.asp

It explains the whole thing. This is just another big right wing flap about nothing.
They have nothing to offer except fear and divisiveness.

Well, since this article wants to cite the Snopes.com coverage let me add that after reading that article I noticed...

They (apparently) purposefully showed a shot of McCain's plane from an angle that completely obliterates the HUGE AMERICAN flags going down the sides!

and

Obama's insignia looks grossly like a symbol one would design for say...a One World government!!!

Come on people! This isn't just about how they had their planes painted! It's about the underlying motivation of the men themselves.

Maggie, I couldn't agree more.

It *is* about the motivations of the men themselves. That's why I wonder why John McCain decided to put his flag near the aircraft's baggage compartment door. (Not a very honorable position, IMHO.) It's almost as if he doesn't want it photographed! Like he's trying to hide it! If he loved America as much as you or me, he would have displayed the flag proudly on the tail, or at least somewhere above the windows. Instead, it's almost like he treats the flag as an afterthought.

I just looked at the Snopes site and agree it didn't look like McCain had a flag on his plane, but it does. No one can rightfully say Barack's plane doesn't have a flag because it does. (By the waym, take a look at John Kerry's plane. Now, that's a great flag.) However, this is more silliness. Barack Obama has every right to paint his logo on his plane. He has a beautiful logo in the colors of the flag. Deal with it.

"Telestar Logistics" says that the flag is a North American trademark and inappropriate - implying that he was forced to remove it ----- why wasn't George Bush forced to remove it from his campaign plane? CAN'T BE TRUE!

The reason that George W. Bush didn't have to
remove any flag from his campaign plane used
during his first campaign is quite simple.
He was using his buddy Ken Lay's corporate
aircraft, belonging to Enron. He wasn't leasing it. 'Kenny boy' was a very close friend of the Bush family and for all his help, Bush helped Enron get deregulated and
ultimately helped bring down a company that
was allowed to do whatever it wanted with no
supervision.

@ Linda: Telstar Logistics did not say that Obama was forced to remove the flag that was part of the NAA livery, because that is untrue. Nor did we imply same.

What Telstar Logistics *did* say was that keeping the livery may have been inappropriate, and that any attempt to measure Obama's patriotism based on the livery of his aircraft is "extremely silly."

the flag could have been left on the tail.
see here, where it was left in the past:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/North-American-Airlines/Boeing-757-28A/0123425/M/

it was removed because he didn't want it, not because it had to be removed.

the flag next to the registration had to be left as it's part of the registration, nationality marks must appear with the registration.


the flag next to the registration had to be left as it's part of the registration, nationality marks must appear with the registration.

you are wrong the Roman capital letter "N" (denoting United States
registration) followed by the registration number of the aircraft you donot have to use the flag

Good grief.......will our currency have a big O on it too..........Wake up before its too late

I remember when I was 6 years old and lived in Queens,NY when Pan Am Clippers flew out of NY heading for Latin America. They were huge and beautiful to watch.

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