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23 October 2007

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Incredible video of that tanker drop. I hope this convinces the Forest Service to rent some big planes. Next up... the A380 Super Duper Tanker!
I was wondering what all those tanks were for..
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Use the equipment - put the DANG fire OUT - what does it take to go DUH?

See it need it want it use it go for it - it is just that simple

a retired USCG CPO

This really is reprehensible, when you're talking about life and limb of firefighters who certainly didn't get into their chosen fields of work for the high pay and easy duty. When I was 16 I spent a summer working in the federal CETA program at a CDF station in Twain Harte in Tuolumne County, mainly washing the trucks and hoses. It was a joy to scrub the crusted Borade off of the engines because I'd witnessed their return from a few horrendous forest fires and them covered with it too, explaining they'd have been toast if not for an air drop directly on the hot side of their position.
I live in San Diego now, luckily not in the danger zone. If this is about money, find it and fund it, dammit. If it's about the airframe, go pull a half dozen C-17's with the fewest hours and equip them. If Congress can find it within themselves to sneak $1 million for a museum for Woodstock on a bill,they can empower us to put out wildfires.
I suspect this is from the environmentalist faction of the USFS, who believe we have disturbed the natural burn process and actually want the fires to burn, humans be damned.
Where do YOU live.

ALSO, Congressman Dana Rohrabacher is investigating this CALIFORNIA BURNING mess and we should call our congressmen and urge them to support Dana in this effort as we unfortunatly have to FORCE the US Forest Service and now apparently Cal Fire to do their job of PUTTING THESE FIRES OUT in the BEGINNING of the fire. If the DC 10 had been called in at the start, this holocaust couldnt have happened wind or no wind. We have to STOP THE BIG BUCKS BUREAUCRATS who are deliberately aiding and abetting these fires for over 12 years. Its either them or us, and the choice should not be difficult. We should call our congressmen and urge them to support Dana Rohrabacher in his investigation of this treason against our state and to FORCE the USFS to use the DC 10 type aircraft on federal land in the BEGINNING of the fire. Call congressmen Jerry Lewis at 1 800 233 1700,and Buck McKeon at 1 800 565 4333, to support Dana, and call Dana at 1 714 960 6483 and encourage him in his great efforts to save our state. Ed Nemechek. 760 246 8059

STOP THE FIRES!---(Letter to Editor for publication ) WARNING: Fire season is here, and CalFire (the California firefighting agency) informs me again that the DC-10 Supertanker firefighting aircraft is still classified as “NOT AN INITIAL ATTACK AIRCRAFT “. This still means the DC-10 has not been, and will not be, used at the beginning of fires until all other methods have failed. I think it’s obvious this is a suicidal policy that ALLOWED the wildfire holocausts in southern California in the past when the DC-10 was NOT deployed at the start of the fires, wind or no wind. This policy also appears to be a semi- continuation of the U.S. Forest Service policy, see: JBS.org -search: wildfire, wherein the U.S. Forest Service deliberately refused to use ANY Supertankers for over 12 years during which time scores of people died horribly, including firefighters, and tens of thousands of homes were burned including national defense nuclear facilities. Supertankers could have saved all that destruction but were never called. We must continue to demand that the DC-10, and Boeing- 747 also, be used as initial attack firefighting aircraft, for if we don’t we’ll be condemned to continuous mega-fires this year destroying our lives and homes with the acquiescence of so-called fire officials who apparently think fire is something they can fool around with. We have to compel CalFire and the U.S. Forest Service by public pressure to use the DC-10, and Boeing-747 Supertankers, see: evergreen supertanker (on internet), to put out fires IMMEDIATELY, and more Supertankers should be built. We can’t allow this deliberate carnage to continue! Contact every politician in California, including the Governor, NOW. Just five more Supertanker aircraft can END ALL UNCONTROLLED WILDFIRES IN AMERICA!--Sincerely, Ed Nemechek, P.O. Box-3263, Landers, Ca. 92285. -760-246-8059. -------------------------------------------------------------More info:

For publication, Dear Editor: PUT OUR FIRES OUT AND PREVENT MUDSLIDES ! -- WARNING: WILDFIRE IS A TERRORIST WEAPON (they have said so) and must be stopped. I want to mention that we only have one Supertanker firefighting aircraft in our entire country (the DC-10 in California that can squelch an area of fire of 12 football fields in a single drop of retardant which the U.S. Forest Service refuses to use, see: DC-10 Supertanker (on internet). This policy appears to be a continuation of the scorched earth policy (see: JBS.org (search: wildfire) seemingly employed by the U.S. Forest Service and by their deliberate refusal to use ANY Supertankers for over 12 years (see: waterbomber.org (or: 1-804-240-4065 for the Russian Supertanker fleet that‘s now available and could stop our California fires if called) during which time scores of people died horribly and tens of thousands of homes were burned including national defense nuclear facilities. Supertankers could have saved all that destruction but were never called. We must continue to demand that the DC-10, and Boeing- 747 (twice the capacity of the DC-10) (see: evergreen supertanker (on internet) also, be used as initial attack firefighting aircraft, for if we don’t we’ll be condemned to continuous mega-fires destroying our lives, homes, and country by so-called fire officials who apparently value their paychecks, full employment for firefighting personnel, sweetheart subcontractors, disaster benefits, and profits from deliberately protracted wildfires more than human life or suffering. This is out of control monstrous bureaucracy that has fed off the charred bodies, homes, and national defense facilities of American citizens for over 12 years and we have to compel the U.S. Forest Service and state agencies by public pressure to use the DC-10, and Boeing-747 to put out fires IMMEDIATELY. Building only five more Supertankers would END ALL uncontrolled wildfires in our entire country. We can’t allow this deliberate carnage to continue! Call ALL your state and congressional representatives NOW. -Sincerely, Ed Nemechek, P.O. Box 3263 Landers, Ca. 92285. -760-246-8059.

It is clear to me that we can do much more to aid our citizens
especially to fight fires with aircraft. These fires now, October 14,
2008, here in the hills north of the San Fernando Valley, did not
get anything near the air support needed. This is a hot, angry
fire, and the big DC-10 tanker, the Super-Scoopers, the P-3
tanker and all the other fixed wing fire fitting aircraft seem to
get into action way too late. Much damage has been done, and
these aircraft were desperately needed right away for a very fast
moving fire like this. And the 747 tanker seemed to be in Ireland
or something. These disasters harming our citizens, what if it
was treated like Operation Shock and Awe. What is Homeland
Security doing for us? There should be fleets of aircraft ready to
go during the relatively short be deadly fire season, here in hot,
bone dry, and windy Southern California. I try my best to pray
that terrible disasters like this are fought with the full power of
our government.

As I watch SoCal burn, again, hoping I donlt have to flee as well I wonder if the Obama administration may look at the 747 program. I hope so as a tax payer it's a big DUH! 24000 is way better than 12000.
Good luck and thanks for looking ahead, some thing that isn't done much anymore.
Dennis

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Blogs are so informative where we get lots of information on any topic. Nice job keep it up!!

Thats Alotta Water!

can the supertanker be employed to cool the japanese nuke plant?

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